does it mean it is better than current law? maybe not. but there is agreement that current law, including the fiscal cliff, is not the best way. >> we have our baseline. deficit to gdp? >> did i say that? >> just to be clear -- if you look to the 10-year period on the current base line and get under 1% deficit to gdp in 10 years -- >> because you get seven years of debt reduction under current law. >> if anyone wants to read more, please read the piece on what it takes. i thank you all for being here today. one reason we have to and is these poor people will be so instrumental in getting us out of this mess that we have to get them back to work. >> we only wish that. >> senators, thank you, congressman, thank you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> we will continue to examine the fiscal cliff with armstrong williams. then the tax writer for cq roll call will take your questions about what is known as tax expenditures. washington journal